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Censorship: pros and cons, or a matter of degree

Filed under: General — by Jane Novak at 12:45 pm on Friday, May 21, 2004

My Pet Jawa is advocating censorship: The whole point of my post was that context is everything. Freedom of speech cannot mean the same thing in a time of war that it means in a time of peace.

These are my comments: All nations currently have some level of censorship on speech that would undermine the security of the state, or incite violence. The global community recently sentenced two journalists to 40 years for broadcasting calls to murder civilians in Rwanda. The question is what level of censorship for the necessary for the continued existance of the state, not whether censorship is moral or an infrigement of rights. Ths social contract includes a limitation on speech that is harmful to society. Where the rights of individuals confront the rights of states, sometimes the state must win in order for the individual to survive. The question is not is censorship moral but what is the least amount required by the current circumstances.

The reason all states must censor some speech all the time is because popular speech is a powerful thing. The modern media can shift billions of people with a sound bite. It is the duty of the media to remain an impartial observer. To a large degree, the print media has become an interested party, a player, and a constituent of goverment, effectively shirking its duty as the fourth estate. The confluence of major media and academic instiutions may have an impact a great as the military/industrial complex so discussed in the nineteen-fifties.

That the media outlets are increasinly supplemented by the web may be a testiment to consumer dissatisfaction. A hopeful thought, which first came to mind in response to the Commissar’s post The Blogsphere Needs A Bar Mitzvah, is that the bloggers can be the counterweight to the elite media and al-Jazeera, as the millions of new hits generated by the death of Nick Berg demonstrates. In this manner, the market will censor the media.

Demosophia notes It’s almost a given that it would develop a herd mentality. The effect of major media censorship would be to slow down the propagation of a highly distorted news pattern, and it’s the very weight that we give “big media” that provides that power to distort.

Adam Khan seems to agree: Hating America is now a multi-billion dollar industry and its value chain–from school teachers and college professors to Hollywood to the music industry to opinion columnists–must be countered. Only this will put an end to the endless conspiracy theories about America and, truth be told, that is what some on the Left fear and that is why they are trying so hard to sabotage the mission in Iraq.

The whole discussion of fundamental issues is of course an imperial decree from Emperor Misha I who started the whole thing by defending a uniform standard of free speech when he said: Well, in a FREE society, the only proper answer is: NOTHING. I don’t give a shit how stupid, wrong or just plain ignorant the kid’s poem is, she has a G-d given right to write it and mean it. But not at THIS school. Oh no. Turns out that the principal learned his lessons REAL well when he studied fascism. Learned how to implement it, that is.

For my view of the importance of a free press in a democracy, here is an article.

35 Comments »

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Comment by erica

4/29/2005 @ 1:12 pm

with the thing on civle rights i think that is dumb you cant use that it was written in the 18 hundreds they had no idea that it might hurt our future generations and it has i am all for cencorship

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Comment by erica

4/29/2005 @ 1:18 pm

also todays younger kids have been greatly effected by the bad things on tv they dont care if it is rated r there still gunna go see it i no i have and thats why i say all this i mean i love rap music but is it really that nessisary to say all those bad words and show all that bad stuff. some people say it makes it better i think it is just a bad influense on our younger kids they are our future we dont want our future to look like detroit at night i live in detroite its a scary thin TRUST ME……

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Comment by erica

4/29/2005 @ 1:29 pm

alot of pepole say it is a gainst free speech but WHO CARES. do you think wile those youg women who get raped or murdered care about free speech there dead because of the bad influence that made them go out late that night wearing the skimpiest clothing they have. THEY DONT CARE they just want to attrake hot guys. if any of you have little girls or younger sibblings, would you want to some how find out one day that you little sister got raped one day no i sure wouldnt (not saying its gunna happen but it could)

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Comment by erica

4/29/2005 @ 1:33 pm

also another thing is when kids or girls see those girls on tv they want to be as skinny as them so they are more influensed to become anerexic thats not good now is it

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Comment by Zach Terror

5/9/2005 @ 11:40 am

People are not forced to do things. Just because a type of music talks about that doesn’t mean that you have to do it. People have control over whatever they do. Don’t blame artists for singing about things they like or dislike. And last, be open minded. Close minds equals no thinking. Use your own personality to see things and don’t blame others for people mistakes.

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Comment by Anonymous

2/9/2006 @ 9:36 am

ur gay

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Comment by carissa

3/2/2006 @ 9:02 pm

children shoud not be exposed to such viiolent content. it only teaches them how to be violent and agressive towards other children, and is basically an electronic babysitter.what are children doing spending so much time watching tv when they could be doing more productive educational things? i am totally for censorship!

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Comment by Angelina Jolie

4/4/2006 @ 9:29 pm

i think you should put a little more info about pros and cons not about ur life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Comment by Benjamin Baran

4/18/2006 @ 10:18 pm

I would like to start off by saying it is entirely true that people are singular autonomous units, and each are subject to independent decisions. Naturally durring times of war a government will try to make sure the media and press will only air things safe to the people in said country, but since we’ve moved on to the subject of the relationship between the media and children then let me start off by saying who here actually did their research? If you check studies have been done on the efects of the media on the “fragile minds” of children. It was shown that girls who play with Barbies have no urge to imitate them whatsoever. The results were the same with little boys who play with violence oriented action figures, infact, when a young boy was given a toy, one who’d never been exposed to media violence before, even in the slightest sense, he pretended it was a blunt weapon, thus illustrating natural instinct.
Another study done proved that actual violent media does have an effect, but not to the extreme that children want to inflict damage, only mimic it, and the effects only last for fifteen minutes, half hour tops.
So there you have it, the truth from someone who actually did his research. Lazy parents, stop trying to pass the buck and actually try spending some time with your kids, maybe raise them yourself for a change.

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Comment by Benjamin Baran

4/18/2006 @ 10:20 pm

By the way, I’m sorry for using big words and proper grammar, I can see you already have a code running here.

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Comment by matt

5/3/2006 @ 1:35 pm

I think censorship is the opposite to the freedom of speech. let the people think for themselves. your kids are going to hear things and see things that you think aren’t apropriate anyways. better to show them and let them decide what to do. Censorship is just another way to make the government that much more in control of the free people. I do not support censorship and neither should you. but im not telling you what to do. you decide.

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Comment by matt

5/3/2006 @ 1:43 pm

the government and parents are turning into communist. all opposing the censorship through your fist in the air and say what you want to say.

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Comment by Bob

5/5/2006 @ 3:09 pm

It is horrible.

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Comment by dbob

5/5/2006 @ 3:11 pm

Children should not see such things and hear such things

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Comment by Anonymous

5/5/2006 @ 3:13 pm

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Comment by tabitha

7/27/2006 @ 3:59 pm

I am a teenager who has seen her fair amount of violent movies. I listen to rap music. I’ve even played violent video games. However, I am not a violent person.

Any person who says that children should not be exposed to violent things is probably right. The only difference in many cases is the parents who are in the children’s lives. My parents have always discussed with me the impact of the media that I watch.

I think adults who support censorship are more willing to pass blame to famous rappers and actors rather than pointing their own fingers at themselves. In my opinion, my parents are the ultimate authority in my life, until I turn 18, and I respect them for showing me the bad and the good in life. Talking about these things has only helped me. I also believe that when you do not expose your children to violent things, your children are only more likely to want to explore violent things.

Because I am 17, and I listen to rap music, it is only appropriate that I quote Eminem, a famous rapper:

They say music can alter moods and talk to you
Well can it load a gun up for you , and cock it too

Yes, music, movies, and television do affect the moods of teenages and people alike, but our actions are ultimately our responsibility. So, the choice to view violent materials should also be our responsibility.

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Comment by Chrissy

9/20/2006 @ 7:28 am

You guys take things way toooooo seriously.

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Comment by Anonymous

10/4/2006 @ 11:52 am

lindsey is awsome

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Comment by Jane Armitage

10/31/2006 @ 9:18 pm

Tabitha knows her shit! Oops, I guess that should be censored.

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Comment by Anonymous

1/5/2007 @ 12:25 pm

Don’t Be Gay

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Comment by alert the media

1/21/2007 @ 10:02 pm

i read the article but the comments that have been posted do not relate to the topic discussed in the article itself. The article is arguing that censorshop of the media is necessary in times of war or when the state/country is under such conditions, and personaly i agree a 100% with the author.

P.S if ur 12 yrs of age do not post a comment, because u most likely have no idea what this article is referring to.

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Comment by Ali

2/22/2007 @ 9:14 pm

Rap songs, to me, have a very small impact on the worlds violence. They are just telling the truth about where they came from or what life is really like….

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Comment by Batiman

3/7/2007 @ 11:38 am

am goin 2 de Army :@ wtf is censorzships wtf is datt??

Azerbaijan nigguz

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Comment by vernell

3/8/2007 @ 10:12 am

I am fourteen years old, and I dont think that is a good idea for little kids to be watching and or listing to unsensored things on television or anywhere else>

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Comment by renesse

3/18/2007 @ 7:54 pm

I think media should be censored more, because it isn’t enough. I see my 6 year old cousin using foul language and talking about stuff which I didn’t know until a few years ago. Young kids should maintain their innocence. so I am definatelly for censorship.

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Comment by Alex Tripia

3/28/2007 @ 7:26 am

Censorship is promoting the mediocrity and ignorance of the world, especially in the United States. Ignorance and mediocrity promotes confomity and lack of understanding.

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Comment by anonymous

6/12/2007 @ 5:00 pm

i think censorship defeats the 1st amendment…you have the choice whether to let your kids read the newspaper, watch tv, play “violent” videogames, and listen to rap music (not that rap is bad)

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Comment by ptolemy

10/11/2007 @ 9:18 am

censorship in music is not only necessrry but morally right as well. a lot of the “artist” today say that they should be free to express themselves in however way they want and that the government has no right to put restrictions on their “art”. huh? the government is what is paying for these artist’s music to be recorded and published and sold in stores. a musicain has no right to tell the government what restrictions it can put on them when they are using the governments money and resources to be “artistic”. no… if you want to express yourself with no restrictions from the government stop taking handouts from them…

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Comment by ptolemy

10/11/2007 @ 9:22 am

this comment is to anonymous… stop posting on this site you un-educated moron! go to the cubbards under your kitchen sick and take i nice big swig out of every bottle you find in there… if you have nothing to say on this subject other than to call people gay for having opinions then don’t bore us with your idiotic insults… start posting when you have your own opinions for us to critisize…

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Comment by Cedrik

11/5/2007 @ 11:37 am

Well, I read most of this article and read a few of these comments. And I disagree with “Erica”. All the childish talk about rapings and rated R movies. She spoke as if she was a want-to-be parent, with protective views and all that. But if you were REALLY a decent parent, all you have to do is sift through the good and the bad. Just because we have dangerous people in our society, and just because we have young in our comunities, shouldn’t mean that others have to be silenced. If you want to protect your child from late night rapings, set a curfew for them and make consequences. You don’t want your kids to be exposed to Bad TV? So don’t HAVE tv, and do as you teach, OR do like any other good parent, get a cable hook up or satalite where you can block certain channels or shows based on the rating of the movie or show. You don’t take away others right to live and speak, you step up take the nessesary procautions for EVERYDAY LIFE. You can’t have life spoon fed to you, because not everyone cooks what you like, and that’s not going to change.

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Comment by ttyb

12/10/2007 @ 2:08 pm

ptolemy is right. you need to stop

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Comment by LUJIKA OBEY DUBE

4/1/2008 @ 4:33 am

censorship is a very good bad thing.It can be both good and bad depending on the intention of the censor.

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Comment by myself

4/28/2008 @ 8:36 pm

i like the way cedrick put that. you should not try to control every thing put on tv of in the papers cause it is an excecise in futility

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Comment by zwright

5/22/2008 @ 12:38 am

ok so after reading all of the comments on this post im pretty shure they have made hate people more then anyviolent video game i have ever play andthing violent i have watched ect.

im 14 years old and i think that all media should be completely uncensord

(yes i cant spell for shit)

i belive becuse to truely understand why something is bad you need to under why anyone would want to watch hear or see it and the only way to do that is to expose to everything in its intirety

i understand that this is about war time censorship i completely disagree with that in order for there to be a just war in a democarcy an informed public is nesscery…flat out

i dont care how illitrate i sound this took me like 4 min to write and im going to go finsh my report later fools

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Comment by bubble

10/1/2008 @ 12:11 am

I think that censorship sould be up to the parets not the teachers or the school. If they think there is some type of material that they dont like they should have the parents sigh a slip saying my child can/ or cant read this book

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