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	<title>Comments on: GPC Conference Day One: Saleh Refuses to be Nominated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stock Market Beat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Carnival of the New Jersey Bloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jane at Armies of Liberation reports that Yemeni President to Step Down. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Searchlight Crusade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Searchlight Crusade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;RINO Sightings&lt;/strong&gt;

George Santayana Edition

&quot;Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&quot;

In order to stop speculation...</description>
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<p>George Santayana Edition</p>
<p>&#8220;Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&#8221;</p>
<p>In order to stop speculation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: petiole</title>
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		<dc:creator>petiole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane:  Saleh dosnt need the GPC anymore  it has been exhausted its usefulness as a command structure ..if you read saleh&#039;s address to the GPC in closed sesion you will realize that it has expired, PGC leaders have never been so perplexed and performing such a poor show under the light of tv cammers, and the eyes of millions of viewers ..privately many GPC leaders and activists intimate that they really dont know what is going on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane:  Saleh dosnt need the GPC anymore  it has been exhausted its usefulness as a command structure ..if you read saleh&#8217;s address to the GPC in closed sesion you will realize that it has expired, PGC leaders have never been so perplexed and performing such a poor show under the light of tv cammers, and the eyes of millions of viewers ..privately many GPC leaders and activists intimate that they really dont know what is going on</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heykal, it seems Saleh has the confidence in the Yemeni people to rise to the challenge of the peaceful transition of executive power and I agree with him. 

Maybe the people need this push to move to the next step, and Saleh with his experience and wisdom is going to make the country progress even if some people are fearful or sad or worried. 

It is human nature to treasure the familiar, and Saleh has been in power 27 years, there are some who remember no other. Its quite understandable that many are sincerely sentimentally attached to him. Others may be concerned about their economic interests.

In terms of your risk return analysis, its a good method, and maybe Im seeing diferent facts, but there is a risk to stability by maintaining the staus quo as well as by changing it.

Lastly, I find it hard to digest in general that only one person is qualified to fill that position, and if so, isn&#039;t it an indication of the failure of democratization thus far? It&#039;s been 15 years since unity. Since that time the GPC has been the ruling party but it falls apart without Saleh, unable to produce an alternative or do more than threaten and beg for his return. The GPC continuing in the failure pattern doesn&#039;t seem the path to stability or the empowerment of a representative government. 

Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heykal, it seems Saleh has the confidence in the Yemeni people to rise to the challenge of the peaceful transition of executive power and I agree with him. </p>
<p>Maybe the people need this push to move to the next step, and Saleh with his experience and wisdom is going to make the country progress even if some people are fearful or sad or worried. </p>
<p>It is human nature to treasure the familiar, and Saleh has been in power 27 years, there are some who remember no other. Its quite understandable that many are sincerely sentimentally attached to him. Others may be concerned about their economic interests.</p>
<p>In terms of your risk return analysis, its a good method, and maybe Im seeing diferent facts, but there is a risk to stability by maintaining the staus quo as well as by changing it.</p>
<p>Lastly, I find it hard to digest in general that only one person is qualified to fill that position, and if so, isn&#8217;t it an indication of the failure of democratization thus far? It&#8217;s been 15 years since unity. Since that time the GPC has been the ruling party but it falls apart without Saleh, unable to produce an alternative or do more than threaten and beg for his return. The GPC continuing in the failure pattern doesn&#8217;t seem the path to stability or the empowerment of a representative government. </p>
<p>Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: heykal</title>
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		<dc:creator>heykal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Jane 

it will take the personality factor out of the equation. shift the decision making burden and accountablility to the instiutions and onto the representatives

frankly this does make sense. however i disagree that it is one of the best opportunities. we can say it s one of the biggest risky move in Yemen today.

wotever. we can use here the traditional way of planning function. There is a return and risk. Having been with acquaintance with the facts in Yemen I believe the risk goes so higher up than the return u mentioned. moreover when it comes to such big move in a country. we gotta be bureaucratic orientation. Bureaucratic analysis would generate result compatible with the populist demand in Yemen nowadays.

we also should bear in mind one important characteristic and nature of arabs 

The old and legend poet of arabs said 
(خلقت الوفا لو رجعت إلى الصبا ............................لفارقت شيبي موجع القلب باكيا)

That if i can translate it 

i have been created of loyalty  ......if I get back to my youth ..... 
i would abandon my hoariness  misty-eyed brokenhearted.. 

so we should bear in mind that one of arabs characteristic is their unwillingness to give up some thing they used to have already. They tend always to keep, rather than change. and such nature of arabs may explain just little tiny aspect of the reasons behind Yemenis insistence on Ali Saleh to stay.

the legend Saleh has been leading the battles and achievements for unification, reunification. stability. democracy, freedom, free media, etc and now as he said the battle now and up is centered around corruption. all Yemenis believe he gotta carry on and lead this battle so history mention him as one of the greatest leaders in yemen history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Jane </p>
<p>it will take the personality factor out of the equation. shift the decision making burden and accountablility to the instiutions and onto the representatives</p>
<p>frankly this does make sense. however i disagree that it is one of the best opportunities. we can say it s one of the biggest risky move in Yemen today.</p>
<p>wotever. we can use here the traditional way of planning function. There is a return and risk. Having been with acquaintance with the facts in Yemen I believe the risk goes so higher up than the return u mentioned. moreover when it comes to such big move in a country. we gotta be bureaucratic orientation. Bureaucratic analysis would generate result compatible with the populist demand in Yemen nowadays.</p>
<p>we also should bear in mind one important characteristic and nature of arabs </p>
<p>The old and legend poet of arabs said<br />
(خلقت الوفا لو رجعت إلى الصبا &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.لفارقت شيبي موجع القلب باكيا)</p>
<p>That if i can translate it </p>
<p>i have been created of loyalty  &#8230;&#8230;if I get back to my youth &#8230;..<br />
i would abandon my hoariness  misty-eyed brokenhearted.. </p>
<p>so we should bear in mind that one of arabs characteristic is their unwillingness to give up some thing they used to have already. They tend always to keep, rather than change. and such nature of arabs may explain just little tiny aspect of the reasons behind Yemenis insistence on Ali Saleh to stay.</p>
<p>the legend Saleh has been leading the battles and achievements for unification, reunification. stability. democracy, freedom, free media, etc and now as he said the battle now and up is centered around corruption. all Yemenis believe he gotta carry on and lead this battle so history mention him as one of the greatest leaders in yemen history.</p>
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		<title>By: m_h_heykal</title>
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		<dc:creator>m_h_heykal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y’s BF
lets not forget that Saleh will continue to be the highest commander of military and armed forces

nope. read the constitution if u really give damn 

but if you watched his speech, he sounded pretty serious
Abu Ahmed does make sense. Many guys believe it is breathless interest situation.

Saba . 
the president is the highest commander of military. guys . u r talking about a country . constitution of a country, not of nominated men varies according to who is in charge.

 abu alhassan and hiethem
is this your strategic vision to idealize such crisis. of course we all watch the euphoria dominating in the ruling party session and in the whole country in general. the president seems to be desirous and serious to leave. People really started to think about the alternative. But unfortunately they could not come up with a convincible candidate. not because there is none, but it is because Saleh is there. And none touches him in regard of his historic accomplishments, distinguished characteristics etc.

the police and army kill people. get off it man. is this Yemen army job? dont u remember what battles and wars this historic corporation have done for Yemen Yemen and only. you need him to leave. what he is saying now. cant u see the populist so to speak euphoria that all boils down to (Ali ,stay please stay) didn’t u say women crying while imploring to him to back down and run for the upcoming election. by the way even men did so. woOotever. dear. neither strategically u have approached it not tactically did u.

petiole

let the secession of ur ideas dispose of guessing and paranoia. divest urself of conspiracy theory and let ur ideas Heredity secession shift from guessing to strategic and realistic analysis. 
 i don’t know, if really happens that Ahmed Ali step up in 13. wont u guys view it just in the same way u did with bush in hilliary clinton. Bush1, Bush2 ,also probably clinton1, clinton2. it is democracy. any one got the means could compete.

y.z  will be due to the psychopathology he suffering from

Without doubt you who suffers psychopathological problems . he is not lunatic. He is so successful. He is a president. neither bumpy , not lunatic can achieve simple things rather than historic achievements, and such personal successes. most probably you are either hotheaded lunatic or u belong to Alhuthism lunatic fringe.woOotever it is, let us be reasonable if u believe this platform destined for better understanding and serious discussion of Yemen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y’s BF<br />
lets not forget that Saleh will continue to be the highest commander of military and armed forces</p>
<p>nope. read the constitution if u really give damn </p>
<p>but if you watched his speech, he sounded pretty serious<br />
Abu Ahmed does make sense. Many guys believe it is breathless interest situation.</p>
<p>Saba .<br />
the president is the highest commander of military. guys . u r talking about a country . constitution of a country, not of nominated men varies according to who is in charge.</p>
<p> abu alhassan and hiethem<br />
is this your strategic vision to idealize such crisis. of course we all watch the euphoria dominating in the ruling party session and in the whole country in general. the president seems to be desirous and serious to leave. People really started to think about the alternative. But unfortunately they could not come up with a convincible candidate. not because there is none, but it is because Saleh is there. And none touches him in regard of his historic accomplishments, distinguished characteristics etc.</p>
<p>the police and army kill people. get off it man. is this Yemen army job? dont u remember what battles and wars this historic corporation have done for Yemen Yemen and only. you need him to leave. what he is saying now. cant u see the populist so to speak euphoria that all boils down to (Ali ,stay please stay) didn’t u say women crying while imploring to him to back down and run for the upcoming election. by the way even men did so. woOotever. dear. neither strategically u have approached it not tactically did u.</p>
<p>petiole</p>
<p>let the secession of ur ideas dispose of guessing and paranoia. divest urself of conspiracy theory and let ur ideas Heredity secession shift from guessing to strategic and realistic analysis.<br />
 i don’t know, if really happens that Ahmed Ali step up in 13. wont u guys view it just in the same way u did with bush in hilliary clinton. Bush1, Bush2 ,also probably clinton1, clinton2. it is democracy. any one got the means could compete.</p>
<p>y.z  will be due to the psychopathology he suffering from</p>
<p>Without doubt you who suffers psychopathological problems . he is not lunatic. He is so successful. He is a president. neither bumpy , not lunatic can achieve simple things rather than historic achievements, and such personal successes. most probably you are either hotheaded lunatic or u belong to Alhuthism lunatic fringe.woOotever it is, let us be reasonable if u believe this platform destined for better understanding and serious discussion of Yemen</p>
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		<title>By: y.z</title>
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		<dc:creator>y.z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam Jane,
he is neither adapted nor able to make a historic step he is just ahippocrat lunatic ignorant mean surgent.
take my word this is alltheartrical nothing is genuine here but if he practiced what he claimed that will be due to the psychopathology he suffering from. you will see Godmiracles, this is the only way to de-enslave the poor yemeni people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam Jane,<br />
he is neither adapted nor able to make a historic step he is just ahippocrat lunatic ignorant mean surgent.<br />
take my word this is alltheartrical nothing is genuine here but if he practiced what he claimed that will be due to the psychopathology he suffering from. you will see Godmiracles, this is the only way to de-enslave the poor yemeni people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he steps down, I think it will be a historic decsion and opportunity to shift the decision making burden and accountablility to the instiutions and onto the representatives. There are a lot of obsticles clearly to invigorating the political process but this may be one of the best opportunities for reform. It will take the personality factor out of the equation and force the opposition to step up a notch. I think anyway. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he steps down, I think it will be a historic decsion and opportunity to shift the decision making burden and accountablility to the instiutions and onto the representatives. There are a lot of obsticles clearly to invigorating the political process but this may be one of the best opportunities for reform. It will take the personality factor out of the equation and force the opposition to step up a notch. I think anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: petiole</title>
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		<dc:creator>petiole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the main motive for this Saleh&#039;s move is to ensure that his son Ahmad is elected in 2013 with out being accused of being a heridtory succession</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the main motive for this Saleh&#8217;s move is to ensure that his son Ahmad is elected in 2013 with out being accused of being a heridtory succession</p>
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		<title>By: abu alhassan and hiethem</title>
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		<dc:creator>abu alhassan and hiethem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And even if he step down one of his realatives well take his place probably his son the army is on Sanhan Hand and The Police dep so whats the diffrenece we need reform the army was established to portect the country and the police to portect and serve the people we dont have that we have more people killed by police and the army than any other country in the world.... we need him and and his clowens to leave power and for Yemen there is a god he well protect it.....He havent established any thing for Yemen ,,,,But dragged us down more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even if he step down one of his realatives well take his place probably his son the army is on Sanhan Hand and The Police dep so whats the diffrenece we need reform the army was established to portect the country and the police to portect and serve the people we dont have that we have more people killed by police and the army than any other country in the world&#8230;. we need him and and his clowens to leave power and for Yemen there is a god he well protect it&#8230;..He havent established any thing for Yemen ,,,,But dragged us down more</p>
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